Thursday, December 04, 2008

Sorry Bhai! Say Dasvidaniya to Dostana of EMI and Karzzz

This month's edition showcases more Hindi movies than English, more new than old, and covers all seven Bollywood movies released in November, and the remaining six out of 10 in October, four of which I wrote about last month. I have tried not to have any spoilers in any one, and I think I've succedded. Let me know if you feel otherwise.

[Parenthesis after the release date contains the country it was first released, if the movie was/is not released in India. Mentioned alongside the title in brackets is the IMDB rating at the time of writing this post, if the movie features in the top 250 list. The last column contains a rating I would give them on a scale of 10.]

Title (IMDB Rank)Release(Country)Rating /10  


Sorry Bhai!28-Nov-086  
Sorry Bhai is an interesting concept, a bit bold for the Indian audience, perhaps the reason it is shot entirely in Mauritius. Director Onir defied stereotypes again after My Brother Nikhil, but he could have treated it better. One, the movie begins slow and dull, where everyone is cracking jokes with a long face, as if they've been tortured to produce humour. As the movie progresses, the heaviness reduces and characters open up, giving out some light moments. The interesting ensemble of cast had mixed performances. Sharman Joshi was wasted. He simply cannot look and act serious at all, doesn't have that talent. Boman Irani was the star here. These are the kinds of roles he does well, where he does witty one-liners acknowledged with a self-smile. Chitrangada Sen looked hotter than in Hazaaron Khwahishein Aisin. Shabana looked fatter but acted the usual. Sanjay Suri was sidelined after the interval. A short movie that could have been made better by using good timing of humour, lesser of melodrama, and more natural acting. There are quite some scenes that look very artificial, though some other look real good, like the one where Sharman-Chitrangada slide down the staircase railing. The ending could have been improved. Despite those shortcomings, Sorry Bhai can (and should) be watched once for the freshness and boldness of the subject.

Oye Lucky! Lucky Oye!28-Nov-088  
A hilarious drama that takes you through the streets of Delhi and through the life of an intelligent thief. Quite an interesting one, a detailed review can be read here.

Yuvvraaj21-Nov-085  
A drama shot in opulent sets, pretty European locales, and presented with rich music. Poor script, bad direction, insignificant acting; only the music steals the show. I wrote a detailed review earlier, which can be read here.

Dasvidaniya14-Nov-089  
Do you have a checklist of things to do before you die? Because that is what Vinay Pathak does before he says Dasvidaniya to the world. Now this is no spoiler; this is revealed by the time you settle in your seats, after which the timid protagonist starts fulfilling all he had wanted to do in life. Following his uncanny habit of preparing a mundande TO-DO list every morning, he does a list that he carries along as the clock ticks. Vinay Pathak, in a brilliant performance that can be said as his career best, above even Bheja Fry, makes you smile, feel sorry, evoke pity at different times. The scene where he enacts out the Dumb-C way his love to childhood sweetheart Neha Dhupia is stunning and quite moving. Debutante producer-director Shashant Shah treated the subject quite sensitively, though there were influences from Hrishikesh Mukherjee's Anand (on a similar subject, where the protagonist lives his life to the fullest in the event of impending death of the same cancer) and Raj Kapoor's Mera Naam Joker. The movie has sad and poignant undertones with quite some light moments also, but it does not depress, rather makes you think about finding out your ambitions and wishes and ways of fulfilling them. The music is meaningful and melodious. A must watch, one of the best Hindi movies this year.

Dostana14-Nov-086  
I had dismissed this one as a Karan Johar movie but then came to know that KJo had only produced it, the director was Tarun Mansukhani, and therefore it could have been watchable. I was very wrong though, little did I know Mansukhani was the assistant director for KKHH, K3G, and KANK. Not much different from a regular KJo movie, Dostana carries on a tale of two strangers who pretend to be gay to get a place to live. The third flatmate is the gorgeous female and the three develop bonds of friendship. What follows is the very predictable plot adorned with poor, cliched jokes, cheap gimmicks, a few tear-sheds, innumerable references to Karan Johar movies, and the declaration of the guys' fake sexual inclination every five minutes that gets you in the head. The good part is obviously Priyanka Chopra who, like in all her other flops earlier this year, gets you interested. The songs are good and catchy, The school-skit-like drama is watchable once.

EMI7-Nov-085  
Another new face Saurabh Kabra could not live up to other debut writer-directors who have been bringing up fresh ideas and delivering great movies. EMI-Liya hai to chukana hi padega has a funny tagline, and has its moments at places though they are far and few, and the storyline was novel too, but somewhere it lacked the fizz. EMI is about four parallel tales of people who've taken loans in some form or the other default, and a recovery agency is employed by the bank to--well--recover money. Four stories become a bit too much and do not flow in tandem. Some of them like Kulbhooshan Kharbanda acted well, a few others sucked. Sanjay Dutt was good, and his character seemed inspired by Munnabhai. The movie comes with a message, but fails to convey it properly. Nothing remarkable about EMI, not even the music.

Ek Vivah Aisa Bhi7-Nov-085  
Another product from the Rajshri Production house which is no different from the earlier ventures. The opening scene was exactly like an Indian wedding video, and the storyline revolves around a wedding. But this is a different one, and that is what the movie about. The plot gets too goody-goody as it moves ahead, and both the lead actors Esha Kopikar and Sonu Sood are ever-smiling and so composed it almost looks they are stoical. Esha Kopikar does look pretty and innocent even in this non-glamourous role, and has the biggest role which is powerful and determinant. Sonu Sood's love for her is extremely selfless and idealistic. Alok Nath, the signature Rajshri father, thankfully got a smaller role. One good thing about Rajshri movies is that the families are getting smaller, but that also means smaller houses and less of grandeur. And also less of music, which again uesd to be a plus point of Rajshri movies; the music of Ek Vivah Aisa Bhi is inconspicuous. For all the above reasons, this would not be a hit even with uncle-aunty audience..And no, this is not a sequel of Vivah.

Fashion29-Oct-086  
Another movie from another renowned director that disappointed me. I feel the newcomers perform much better than the seasoned directors these days. So Mr Bhandarkar picks up another issue, that in the modelling industry and the hardships faced by models and the means used to reach the top. However, the treatment of the subject was rather weak this time. After delivering great works like Chandni Bar and Satta, he was a let down in Fashion. And then he uses exaggeration to prove his point. Six gay fashion designers in the movie? Depicting gaydom was fashion in today's movies but following fashion just for the heck of it? I mean, every designer cannot be gay! And there is one who changes his sexual preferences! All the girls looked good, but Kangana was in the typecasted role of a drunkard and druggie. Priyanka was good, and the new girl Mugdha Godse acted well too. The plot has many loopholes, and the ending unsatisfactory, though he tried to make it a happy one this time. Perhaps that is where Fashion sucked big time. With a happy end in mind, a well-built plot was screwed in the last half hour. Bhandarkarji, are you following Subhash Ghai and leading a downward graph?

Golmaal Returns29-Oct-085  
Sequels are not generally as good as the original in Hollywood (with the exception of a few like Terminator), how can they be in Bollywood, though I was not a very big fan of Golmaal anyway. But it was definitely better than the Returns. The sequel manages to get some laughter, but most of it is corny, cliched, and cheap, revolving around homosexuality or Ekta Kapoor's K-series. Too many people and too many subplots that fail to flow into each other. And then there is this irritating mute Tusssshhhhar (I am sorry if I missed an 's' or an 'h' there) Kapoor, who can utter almost all syllables, and repeatedly keeps appending "Uck" whenever someone says "What the". Sister Kareena cannot get over his real-life-sister's serials and tries to draw similarities between real life and soaps every instant. Arshad Warsi keeps on laughing, while Ajay Devgan's character keeps on trying to look smart. Shreyas Talpade was underutilized, and Vrajesh Hirjee was a joker as always. The other actors are okay, and the Cadbury girl Anjana Sukhani looked hot. And yes, the music is catchy and foot-tapping. The end was a mockery where Tusshar is speaking and the others mention him not being in the third. Somebody please save us from a Golmaal Returns Again.

Roadside Romeo24-Oct-085  
Disney's debut into Bollywood. Yash Raj's entry into animation. Jugal Hansraj's first direction and script. Tata Elxsi's expanse into animation from special effects (Dhoom, Spiderman 3, Iron Man). Saif and Kareena's first voice-overs. India's first animation movie not based on mythology. So many firsts and the movie garnered high expectations, but sadly enough did not live up to it. First, the animation is good but does not appeal because all the dogs are naked except for a neckwear, and they walk oddily enough on two legs. The backdrop is not given attention and is not very good. Second, the story is predictable and not gripping enough. It is about a polished pet dog abandoned by its owners into the dark streets of Mumbai occupied by unkempt, dirty strays. After initial bullying, they are taken into the smooth talks and start a business. Then comes the hafta-vasooli and the villains. Third, the dialogue-delivery is poor, and the only humour that is attempted is by using mimickry of Bollywood dialogues, which sucks. The love-story between the lead couple is fantastical, and is depicted by means of music and dance, which is okay. Not much, but can be watched once as the first non-mythological Indian animation.

Heroes24-Oct-085  
You get put off at the opening parallel scenes that have been directly picked up from Five Point Someone and Friends. What follows is a cheap comedy sequence that could have done away with in this otherwise serious movie with a subject as earnest as depicting war heroes. Two film academy students choose to make a documentary on "Indian Defence Forces kyon nahi join karni chahiye", in the course of which they deliver three letters from slain soldiers to their families. So you get to see Preity-Salman, Sunny-Bobby Deols, and Mithun-Dino Morea in three different subplots that change the mindsets of filmmakers Sohail Khan and Vatsal Shah. The idea is novel, seemingly inspired from Che Guevera's The Motorcycle Diaries, but the frivolous inital half hour was needless and lessened the effect. Sunny Paaji could not help show his antics even on a wheelchair, when he kicks of an entire team of firangi goondas, and ends up making a mockery of our heroes in war. Disappointing scripting and direction, and loud, tasteless humour spoit the idea that could have done wonders had it been treated the RDB way, but writer-director Samir Karnik chose to make a masala movie and ended up making a mishmash.

Karzzz17-Oct-084  
Subash Ghai commented in an interview somewhere that he had wished Karzzz to be a hit. That was really generous of him. I had expected it to be crap and Karzzz lived up to my expectations. A perfect example of how an excellent script can be ruined by incompetent direction and poor acting. Karz had a haunting music and an intriguing narrative but despite being the same story, Karzzz had a rather idiotic plot movement, laced with stupid unnecesary jokes only director Satish Kaushik can crack on screen. Farhan Akhtar's Don at least had a classy treatment of the original Don, interesting shooting locales and sets and a new twist in the end, but Karzzz had Himesh's silky mane and nasal twangs. He can neither act nor sing but takes on the role of a supposedly charismatic rock star flanked by girls. The part after the revelation of renaissance finishes off instantly and ridiculously. Urmila looked older and fitted the role, and perhaps she was the only charm, otherwise the movie is a burden to finish once you start it.

Cheenti Cheenti Bang Bang17-Oct-085  
I had heard the movie was an animation, and had assumed it would have been in some way related to the 1964 book (Chitty Chitty Bang Bang) by Ian Flaming. To my utter horror, it was about two kingdoms of the industrious Cheentis banging against each other. The movie is about a war that had sparked because the royal daughter-in-law of red ants was teased by the prince of the black ants (or vice-versa wrt the colour). Both the sides have larger reptiles as accomplices, a chameleon that never changes colour, a frog that never stops croaking, and a wheat eelworm Ghunn who crosses sides, instigating the war. The voice-overs by stars like Mahesh Manjarekar and Asrani turned into creaky dialogues, and did not grab any interest either. The story is dimwitted, and the animation crude 2-D. Having said that, I am glad that animation movies are increasingly being made in India, and are getting creative and out of the realm of mythology. Cheenti Cheenti Bang Bang was a small movie, targetted only at kids; the Indian still believes animation is meant for kids. However, a few dialogues like woh hamare badan par toot pada cannot be really in a movie for children. Cheenti Cheenti Bang Bang went on completely unnoticed, I don't know whether it was screened even in multiplexes. There is still a long way to go before we can start seeing jewels like Ice Age and Wall-E in India.

Babylon A.D.10-Oct-085  
Hollywood seems to never get bored of plots set in the dystopian future, where survivors are fighting for--what else but survival. Babylon A D, adapted from French novel Babylon Babies, tells us the story of a veteran-turned-mercenary transporting a young woman from Eastern Europe to America. What follows is an intercontinental drama-action-drama-action series that fails to flow smoothly. The movie, set a mere decade into the future, demontrates sleek advancements in technologies that cannot be imagined in such a near future. There is an interesting technology shown that seems to get lost in all the commotion. The French director Mathieu Kassovitz was unhappy with his own creation a week before release, and admitted "It's pure violence and stupidity", and that he had wanted to communicate a message which it couldn't; he didn't get to do a scene the way it was written or the way he wanted it to be. Producers 20th Century Fox instead cut 70 minutes to make the running time to 93. That explains the incoherence. Vin Diesel acts the plastic messenger, and Michelle Yeoh looks old, but the movie can be watched only if you enjoy action scenes, some of which shot on ice-covered mountains on sledges.

Flashbacks of a Fool3-Oct-087  
A ageing Hollywood star who leads a narcissistic lifestyle of sex, drugs and celebrity status in his plush house by the sea, caretaken by a laconic personal assistant, learns about the demise of his childhood friend at a time when his own life is getting lonely, and he is no longer the charm of moviemakers. The next hour-long flashback takes us to the lazy English hamlet in the seventies when the adolescent protagonist goes through a lot of emotions, good and bad, set to the beats of Roxy Music and Bowie. The movie switches back to the present when the young boy leaves home in search of a new life. At present the actor visits his friend's funeral and learns new things about his past. Though slow-paced, the movie holds attention throughout through a emotion-filled poignant drama, the kinds I find rare in Hollywood. The stark contrast between the east coast America and the countryside in Britain, the present and past lifestyles, is beautifully shot. Daniel Craig did not have to do much in a non-Bond role but the younger Harry Eden who occupied more screen time as the protagonist was superb. Overall, a nice watch.

Wall-E (# 32)29-Aug-0810  
This is what is called a modern classic. A cute story set up in a futiristic era. Intense feelings depicted through lifeless machines. Great direction, script and soundwork. Superb chemistry between the lead couple. Amazing animation by Pixar. Huge attention to detail would have been a key point in the extreme hardwork in designing the animation and everything else. The movie begins with the eponymous solar-powered protagonist doing about his chores on a lifeless earth 800 years hence. All the other WALL-E (Waste Allocation Load Lifter- Earth-Class) robots have perished but this one, who over seven centuries, has developed a personality and a sense of curiosity, including his fascination for the old musical Hello Dolly! that he watches every evening after returning from work. The small but rought-tough tank-like robot is joined by the cute and svelte egg-shaped Apple-product-like EVE (Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator), who is sent by humans living in a space liner to evaluate the possibility of life on the devastated earth. It clicks in at the first meeting, and an unrequited romance develops which takes him after her to the space liner where the story becomes all the more interesting. The dance in the space where WALL-E uses a fire-extinguisher to move is terrific. A cool score, some from the classic Hello Dolly add to the sentiment. The movie ends in a very feel-good way. A must watch, I would rate this much above Kungfu Panda earlier this year.

Taken27-Feb-08(France)8  
This French movie in English is an action-packed, fast-paced thriller with a simple plot that does not have too many twists and suspenses. The end is predictable from the beginning but that does not reduce the excitement. The daughter of Liam Neeson, the ex-CIA 'preventer', is abducted on her arrival in Paris by Albanians who deal in trafficking of women. The sharp, poised, courageous, trigger-happy dad who has 'a very particular set of skills acquired over a very long career' travels from the US to Paris. The one-man army is fast, agile and resourceful, and 'makes a mess' in Paris, killing anyone who comes in the way. The movie starts with a slow pace but gains momentum the moment she is kidnapped. The prologue had resemblance to Kidnap closer home where a powerful father goes out to hunt for her teen daughter who used to live with his ex-wife. The plot is rather unbelieving but you enjoy the confidence with which Bryan moves among the criminals in a foreign land. This was almost like James Bond sans the gadgets and the babes. The movie was a one-man-show; the other actors were rather unknown, except the X-Men star Famke Jannsen, who looked rather haggard. The dialogues were crisp and powerful. Overall, an exciting watch when you are feeling lazy and want some thrill.

Nishabd2-Mar-075  
Had wanted to watch this movie because of the hype about Jiah Khan and her legs. When I finally saw Nishabd, I was wordless at the ostentatious publicity it had garnered. The hypes and the promos would have told that it is the story of an older man falling in for a younger woman. If that rings a bell, yes, you are right about Lolita, American Beauty, and Joggers' Park. The last one is quite close because that's the theme with an Indian ethical angle; the plot here has nothing new to offer, the screenplay and direction poor, and the movie as a whole much worse, even though the older man is a much better actor here. Actually Amitabh Bachchan did a very good job as one more Vijay, his only shortcoming was that he signed this movie. Jiah Khan looks like a malnutritioned nympho brat, and the camera always finds her below the belt, or between her stick-like legs, with AB's face in the backdrop. RGV needs to learn, among many other things, the concept of subtlety. The concept of older man-younger woman is preposterous with the traditional Indian, and the way Nishabd is made shows that RGV is one of those Indians that find it wrong. That is why he should not have made this picture. I had initially rated it a 4, but as I write this, I recap AB's acting, and raise it to 5.

Æon Flux2-Dec-05(USA)7  
A scifi that takes you to life 400 years hence in a walled city that houses the last bunch of human survivors on earth. True to the name, the movie belongs to Æon Flux, the long-legged assassin who is hired to kill the ruler of the ruling Goodchild dynasty of scientists. What follows is a series of action sequences in the futiristic city with the assassin and her partner fighting an entire army. What strikes throughout is oscar-winning Charlize Theron in a very sexy and the very same leotard almost throughout the movie, open in a weird but sensuous manner under the shoulders and above the cleavage, and shows her 5'10" figure from every angle you would like to see. The martial arts fights are good, but there is a lot of unbelievable stuff that looks magical, wrapped under the realm of science. The story does have an interesting revelation towards the end, that makes you go wow. An interesting watch, if not for anything else, for Charlize Theron.


15 comments:

Indigo said...

Such a nice collection and no comments yet! Good, helpful details about movies. But how do you manage to watch all crap movies also? Do you only write reviews, don't read others'?

Anadi Misra said...

Itni movies! Accha review likha hai, I read most of the bollywood ones and a few hollywood ones..and skimmed through the remaining ones which I wasn't interested in watching at all.

You know, I do wonder whether Dasvidaniya would have had better collections had they come up with a catchier name and a little better marketing...Would have made commericial sense...Now its just a waste of resources (since the movie tanked big time)
But since you recommend, I might watch it sometime (same for WallE)

Dostana did have a few laughs...I thought AB Jr. was funny!

The thing with Ek Vivah's music is, its mediocre, its not bad, not very good...but it has some old familiar melodies which put you in a dilmemma whether you should listen to it or fwd. it

Karzz, I hated the fact that Himesh sang Ek Haseena Thi, he butchered the song so I dont want to see the movie (I rarely watch movies now...watched DOstana & Yuvvraaj on a whim, so songs are all I base my perceptions on)

Agree with you on Nishabd...I saw this one in a theatre a while back. Somehow RGV still has the Bhoot/Rangeela hangover, so you see pointless shots of frolicking females and jarring sound-effects which actually spoil the movie. Also AB was great in this one, he actually made the concept believable and frankly, I found his feelings justified and resonable (something others like Joggers Park couldn't, Victor Bannerjee seemed like a lecherous old fool in that one)
To me, the fatal scripting flaw was never hearing the girl's point of view. Made her character sketchy and less believable and hence the love story flimsy. It seemed that they were trying to suggest that only a stupid, bratty girl would fall in love with an old guy.

BTW, why dont you review new music albums! Thats something I am into these days and that will really help me :)

ashes said...

Indigo:

Thanks. I watch movies to write reviews, and write to watch :) And I do read other reviews, but not the professional ones who are generally biased with big names.

Anonymous said...

Oh gosh!! How much patience do you have…how can you able to manage to see so many movies…you are seriously hard core movie lover …really I think you shld try to be an movie critic…really good review … I haven’t seen many movies in this but I saw ‘Dasvidaniya’ I found it very simple ..they tried to do something unusual, “Dostana’ was fun till Bobby enterance…once bobby popped in the movie got screwed…its was an average movie…John look hot…Abhishek Uncleji was okay types..Priyanka was good too…

Fashion was okay sort of movie ..i felt the director trying to make similar type of movie that he made earlier like ‘Page 3’ but can be watch able once.

As I read your review I got whole rest of unwatched movies cooked up in my mind so.. no need to watch rest :-P

Roli said...

From the day you posted this blog, I was thinking to write the comment but really don't know what should I write...

Actually, you have seen a lots and lots of bollywood movies... and I thought, let me also watch a few more and then will come up with my views. Till now I have seen, Dostana- but while watching I slept in between :p and didn't enjoy it, EMI- was ok ok will a little boring but yes Sanjay Dutt was the one due to which was asle to watch it till end. Fashion - was also not worth-watching . Golmal Returns was total bakwas, was felling to come out of the theatre in between.

Babylon A.D. is a good and worth watching movie and I liked it. Wall-E, the most liked movie, I enjoyed this animated movie... eevn i want to rate it to 9. Taken was also a very good movie, fundu movie.

I have seen a few other non-listed movies which I liked and enjoyed. These are must watched movies - Eden Lake, Body of Lies, Tansporter3, Madagascar Escape to Africa, Quartaine.

ashes said...

Anadi:

Dasvidaniya might have tanked on the box office, but most Vinay Pathak movies do so, don't they? And these 'parallel-cinema' multiplex movies are anyway low-budget ones. BTW, I never go by the box collections in deciding for or against a movie. But you should watch it, you'd really like it.

Re Karzzz, I had also not wanted to see it, but then I also didn't want to miss any movie. :)

Yes, Victor Banerjee sucked big time, but Perizad did a much better job than Jiah Khan...actually their characters were quite different too. BTW, I saw 'Elegy' last night, on a similar old-man-young-girl relationship, but there the issues were different than it being against society norms.

Good suggestion :) Let me try at music albums too, though I get to listen to music much after it is all over TV and FM. And secondly, it takes half an hour for anyone to listen to an entire album and decide whether they want to continue, and nobody generally goes and buys music CDs. :P But yes, I might try writing a music review very soon.

ashes said...

Anonymous:

Thanks for the kind words.

LOL@ Abhishek Uncleji :) Poor Aish...

ashes said...

Roli:

Yes, being in India, I get to watch all Bollywood movies soon after their release, but Hollywood movies are released much later here, sometimes months after their UK/US launch. Good that you gave me a list of non-listed movies :) Shall watch them as and when I get them.

Anadi Misra said...

my point is...ki agar koi invest karta hai off-beat movie pe...iska matlab yeh nahi ki he wants no returns...so the director shudnt get that whimsical ki kuch bhi kare movie ke saath (case in point, no smoking)...thoda uska khayal bhi karna chahiye...jaise many, if they hear the name of the movie...may say, koi foreign movie hogi...and they wont see it in cinema (and frankly, only they count...hum log to revenue eat karte hain :D)

So to encourage good scripts, thoda trade-off to karna chahiye....And let me ask...Bheja Fry ki jagah uska naam Dasvidaniya hota, jisko bolna bhi mushqil hai...to pata nahi kya hashra hota...ya...Khosla Ka Ghosla...ki jagah koi random russian word...I think the director got carried away...novels mein shayad chale, but movie dekhna, thoda gut feeling pe depend karta hai...whether u get a good feel seeing the promos to spend that much money....

Anadi Misra said...

I come back, as I didn't close properly :D

Commercial success is probably the most important...even for off-beat movies..for one, its a validation thing....say, 1000 ppl saw it, and 600 liked it...rather than 50 saw and 40 liked...so not just the percentage...commercial success outweighs critical because frankly, the latter is an illusion of a movie being well-made, and not realizing other mistakes....besides, isn't the point of making a movie is being seen and heard by a lot of people...and atleast reach a target demographic...

So if you ask me, whether a movie was hit or flop, goes a long way in telling how the movie was....maybe 15% of flops were good....but only 5% of hits will be bad....and then that again, is the question of demographic....

Good marketing is also a part of movie-making...and the movie viewing is often a matter of perception...Jaise a certain star or director's movie, u expect a certain quality...Yashraj movie and a Rajshri movie, different banners, different audiences and expectations...(YRF duds make more money coz they know how to entice the public, its smart business sense atleast...let your distributors make some money...or else who will buy your crap even if it is good, perceptions matter...marketing matters)

similarly, for small movies, people expect a different flavor...so getting quirky is fine for the director, but dude, think about the producer too...usko paisa waste hi karna hota toh shares mein laga deta aajkal :D...and Vinay Pathak too...so much talent, energy and time spent and yet not enough recognition...I think he will get more of it in Rab Ne...and that will take his talent and career farther than this good movie with a Russian word for goodbye or something...its not even catchy...

When people like Naseeruddin Shah say movies satisfaction ke liye karte hain, its mostly a case of sour grapes coz they are not commercially viable (not undermining his talent though, but he still sulks that he couldn't take off post Jalwa, Tridev, Vishwatma, Mohra, and a few others)

In the end, I am not saying the movie tanked just coz of its name...there were other flaws too...but when u spend someone else's money and someone else's time and resources, atleast think about everyone and not be dumb enough to arrogantly go ahead and showcase it however you like...I guess I am just pissed at the name :P, wtf...what was he thinking, too mad at him :D :D

Sorry I am venting in your blog...apna likhne mein aalas aata hai...dont take it personally, not questioning your judgment...but just pissed at the guy being irresponsible with the few crores he spent making the movie...:P

ashes said...

Anadi:

And I had thought the divide between commercial and art—as we used to call them once—parallel, offbeat now—movies is decreasing. It actually was, with movies like Lagaan and RDB. But now, offbeat movies can be defined as low-budget movies with a small plot for a niche audience. These offbeat movies are generally better than commercial ones because of a variety in subject (at least for voracious movie-watchers like us), and because of new, unknown, people-next-door kinda characters. Imagine how would have Aamir shaped up had Aamir Khan acted in it instead of Rajeev Khandelwal. The name Dasvidaniya might not have attracted queues at the ticket counter the same way as the actor Khandelwal wouldn't have.

We do not watch movies for entertainment and getaways anymore. With 25 movies a month, at least I do not. I, therefore, do not expect heroes jumping multistoreys and performing on expansive stages and flying choppers and all.

I think commercial success and profitability are two different aspects, the former being the gross revenue, whereas the latter being the difference between collections and expenses. I reiterate then, that a 5-crore movie going dud at the BO might have made a higher profit percentage than a 50-crore mediocre hit.

Small-movie-actors generally do not do very good in big budget movies. See Shreyas Talpade in Iqbal, Dor, and then OSO, where he was a sidekick to SRK, under a big banner. He would have been paid more in OSO, but his character got diminutive in front of SRK, whereas in Iqbal, the newcomer's role was more powerful than the veteran Naseerudding Shah. That is the beauty of small films.

Achchha the producer generally has quite a say in the way the movie is made, more so with small movies where the producer anyway doesn't have to care much about locales and sets. So when you say the director 'spent someone else's money and showcased it however he liked', it might not be the case. The nomenclature might at times be totally the producer's baby. I don't have a Bollywood example but Fox Studio cut 70 minutes of Mathieu Kassovitz's original version of Babylon A D to get to a running time of 93 minutes, much against the director's wishes.

Anyway, thoda lamba ho gaya. But don't be bothered with the producer losing money. Good that you write, if not at your blog, here. Actually writing a post and a comment are quite different.

lostonthestreet said...

saw das..today.i felt it was just about ok.nowhere near the brilliance of "bheja fry"

ashes said...

LostOnTheStreet:

Bheja Fry was very good too, but I liked Dasvidaniya more. Maybe because it had a sad undertone throughout the storyline whereas Bheja Fry was almost hilarious all through. And perhaps that is the reason it was not liked by everyone.

Anyway, welcome to my blog. Keep visiting.

L. Venkata Subramaniam said...

ha ha ha now that should cover all the movies under the sun! I like your reviews, short and sweet. Dasvidaniya was great!

ashes said...

Venkata:

Thanks. And welcome to my blog. Please keep visiting.

Post a Comment

  ©Template by Dicas Blogger.

TOPO